SereneScreen Google search hacked?

Mollusc · 03-22-2010, 08:24 PM

A google search for the Serenescreen web site currently shows "Viagra for Sale". Is Jim diversifying his product line?

JohnWho · 03-23-2010, 07:31 AM

Perhaps he's simply investigating aquarium remedies for people who live in "soft water" locales?

Jim Sachs · 03-23-2010, 09:37 AM

Prolific is looking into it.

Ralph · 03-23-2010, 04:34 PM

The link goes to the right place... the description is a bit off though

Dale · 03-23-2010, 06:59 PM

At some time in the future, the "situation" will undoubtedly be corrected. So, I thought it would be useful to post what this discussion is all about.

Googling "serenescreen" produces the following as the "top" hit, which normally means that serenescreen is paying for the privilege of being at the top of the list.

Originally posted by google:

Viagra for sale. Buy Viagra/Sildenafil in our Online Pharmacy and save your Time and Money. The best price and Quality only at $1.15 per pill. No RX!
www.serenescreen.com/ - Cached - Similar

Googling "prolific" gets essentially the same result.

Ralph · 03-23-2010, 08:54 PM

I doubt Prolific is shelling out money to get to the top of the list.. so this could be considered a good thing.. sort of.

Jim Sachs · 03-23-2010, 09:06 PM

The problem has been found and fixed by Prolific, but it will take a few days to filter through the system so that it shows up properly in Google. We don't pay anything to be at the top of the list. We've been there for 10 years.

Rick Simon · 03-24-2010, 06:49 AM

Originally posted by Jim Sachs:

The problem has been found and fixed by Prolific, but it will take a few days to filter through the system so that it shows up properly in Google.

::chuckle::

Looks like Prolific's web server may have gotten broken into. If you do a Google search for prolific, lifeglobe or serenescreen, then select the cached version of the Viagra result page, you'll get to see a text only version of what used to be there. Please be aware that I would be VERY careful about following any of the links at the bottom of that page though! At the very least, I recommend you run a sandboxed browser for that.

If I had to guess, I'd say their server got broken into but they caught it and fixed it in a relatively short period of time. Unfortunately, a Google spider got there and crawled it before they were able to do so. Until Google recrawls the server and updates its database, Google searches for prolific, serenescreen and lifeglobe will all show the viagra link.

Dale · 03-24-2010, 09:10 AM

Not too surprising - maintenance doesn't seem to be a giant priority. If you go to http://www.prolific.com/ and click on the "Now Hiring" box at the lower left, you get to

http://www.prolific.com/Jobs/

Positions available

* MIS Assistant - 4/20/2007
* Web Designer - 4/17/2007
* UI Web Expert - 1/29/2007

On the other hand, I would never have known about the "Funnyfish" product without going to http://www.prolific.com/product/index.php?tid=6

Dale · 03-24-2010, 11:26 AM

I mentioned "Funnyfish"

http://www.lifeglobe.com/product/

Funnyfish - Beta - Windows

It's been "Beta" since at least 2007. So, obviously, we shouldn't be concerned that MA3 has been "Beta" for a bit over a year.

Jim Sachs · 03-24-2010, 11:33 AM

From my point of view all software is Beta, all the time.

Rick Simon · 03-24-2010, 12:53 PM

Originally posted by Jim Sachs:

From my point of view all software is Beta, all the time.

From a programmers point of view that may be true (though I know some programmers who might not agree). From a marketing viewpoint, IMHO, that isn't very smart at all. There are a lot of consumers out there who know enough about "beta" products to not want to bother with them. Volunteering to be a guinea pig is just not something they have the time for, or want to do.

Just my $0.02 worth....

Dale · 03-24-2010, 12:56 PM

Originally posted by Jim Sachs:

From my point of view all software is Beta, all the time.

I understand and agree. No complex software is ever finished, perfect, or bug-free. And underlying operating system changes can require changes to application software.

However: Funnyfish is still being actively sold as "Funnyfish - Beta", and the .scr file is dated 3 years ago.

The point is that Funnyfish has been "called Beta - without any changes, updates, or bug-fixes" for 3 years.

There's no evidence of development or support. No "forum", except that patscarr noticed it in December 2007 https://www.feldoncentral.com/forums...ead.php?t=4218

Jim Sachs · 03-24-2010, 01:06 PM

Sorry - don't know anything about Funnyfish.

Rick Simon · 03-24-2010, 01:21 PM

Originally posted by Dale:

I understand and agree. No complex software is ever finished, perfect, or bug-free. And underlying operating system changes can require changes to application software.

But does removal of the Beta tag indicate the software is "finished, perfect, or bug-free"? Not in my experience. It merely indicates the product has received sufficient testing to be reliable and "major" bug free with the vast majority of systems.

Dale · 03-24-2010, 01:40 PM

Originally posted by Jim Sachs:

Sorry - don't know anything about Funnyfish.

I don't think we expected you to.

My point was that Prolific's Funnyfish has been "called Beta - without any changes, updates, or bug-fixes" for 3 years.

Prolific's MA3 Beta.....

....has a forum.

JohnWho · 03-24-2010, 02:27 PM

Originally posted by Dale:

....has a forum.

which is not in beta.

feldon34 · 03-25-2010, 05:20 AM

It shows just how the relationship between this forum and Prolific has deteriorated that they never even told me about Funnyfish. The price for me trying to hold them accountable.

henemly · 03-25-2010, 09:35 AM

Originally posted by Dale:

* Web Designer - 4/17/2007

says: Status Available

3 years? Web designers are hard to find?

Jim Sachs · 03-25-2010, 11:21 AM

Prolific's fix has filtered through the searchbots, and a Google search for SereneScreen now comes up with the proper text.

03-22-2010, 08:24 PM	#1
Mollusc Registered Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Gold Coast, Australia Posts: 18	SereneScreen Google search hacked? A google search for the Serenescreen web site currently shows "Viagra for Sale". Is Jim diversifying his product line?

03-23-2010, 09:37 AM	#3
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,788	Prolific is looking into it. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

03-23-2010, 09:06 PM	#7
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,788	The problem has been found and fixed by Prolific, but it will take a few days to filter through the system so that it shows up properly in Google. We don't pay anything to be at the top of the list. We've been there for 10 years. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

03-24-2010, 11:33 AM	#11
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,788	From my point of view all software is Beta, all the time. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

03-24-2010, 01:06 PM	#14
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,788	Sorry - don't know anything about Funnyfish. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

03-23-2010, 07:31 AM	#2
JohnWho Registered Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Tampa Bay Area, Florida Posts: 486	Perhaps he's simply investigating aquarium remedies for people who live in "soft water" locales?

03-23-2010, 04:34 PM	#4
Ralph Retired Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Edmonton Alberta Ca Posts: 2,441	The link goes to the right place... the description is a bit off though

03-23-2010, 06:59 PM	#5
Dale Banned Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Western Missouri Posts: 960	At some time in the future, the "situation" will undoubtedly be corrected. So, I thought it would be useful to post what this discussion is all about. Googling "serenescreen" produces the following as the "top" hit, which normally means that serenescreen is paying for the privilege of being at the top of the list. Originally posted by google: Viagra for sale. Buy Viagra/Sildenafil in our Online Pharmacy and save your Time and Money. The best price and Quality only at $1.15 per pill. No RX! www.serenescreen.com/ - Cached - Similar Googling "prolific" gets essentially the same result.

03-23-2010, 08:54 PM	#6
Ralph Retired Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Edmonton Alberta Ca Posts: 2,441	I doubt Prolific is shelling out money to get to the top of the list.. so this could be considered a good thing.. sort of.

03-24-2010, 06:49 AM	#8
Rick Simon Registered Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Michigan Posts: 93	Originally posted by Jim Sachs: The problem has been found and fixed by Prolific, but it will take a few days to filter through the system so that it shows up properly in Google. ::chuckle:: Looks like Prolific's web server may have gotten broken into. If you do a Google search for prolific, lifeglobe or serenescreen, then select the cached version of the Viagra result page, you'll get to see a text only version of what used to be there. Please be aware that I would be VERY careful about following any of the links at the bottom of that page though! At the very least, I recommend you run a sandboxed browser for that. If I had to guess, I'd say their server got broken into but they caught it and fixed it in a relatively short period of time. Unfortunately, a Google spider got there and crawled it before they were able to do so. Until Google recrawls the server and updates its database, Google searches for prolific, serenescreen and lifeglobe will all show the viagra link.

03-24-2010, 09:10 AM	#9
Dale Banned Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Western Missouri Posts: 960	Not too surprising - maintenance doesn't seem to be a giant priority. If you go to http://www.prolific.com/ and click on the "Now Hiring" box at the lower left, you get to http://www.prolific.com/Jobs/ Positions available * MIS Assistant - 4/20/2007 * Web Designer - 4/17/2007 * UI Web Expert - 1/29/2007 On the other hand, I would never have known about the "Funnyfish" product without going to http://www.prolific.com/product/index.php?tid=6

03-24-2010, 11:26 AM	#10
Dale Banned Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Western Missouri Posts: 960	I mentioned "Funnyfish" http://www.lifeglobe.com/product/ Funnyfish - Beta - Windows It's been "Beta" since at least 2007. So, obviously, we shouldn't be concerned that MA3 has been "Beta" for a bit over a year.

03-24-2010, 12:53 PM	#12
Rick Simon Registered Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Michigan Posts: 93	Originally posted by Jim Sachs: From my point of view all software is Beta, all the time. From a programmers point of view that may be true (though I know some programmers who might not agree). From a marketing viewpoint, IMHO, that isn't very smart at all. There are a lot of consumers out there who know enough about "beta" products to not want to bother with them. Volunteering to be a guinea pig is just not something they have the time for, or want to do. Just my $0.02 worth....

03-24-2010, 12:56 PM	#13
Dale Banned Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Western Missouri Posts: 960	Originally posted by Jim Sachs: From my point of view all software is Beta, all the time. I understand and agree. No complex software is ever finished, perfect, or bug-free. And underlying operating system changes can require changes to application software. However: Funnyfish is still being actively sold as "Funnyfish - Beta", and the .scr file is dated 3 years ago. The point is that Funnyfish has been "called Beta - without any changes, updates, or bug-fixes" for 3 years. There's no evidence of development or support. No "forum", except that patscarr noticed it in December 2007 https://www.feldoncentral.com/forums...ead.php?t=4218

03-24-2010, 01:21 PM	#15
Rick Simon Registered Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Michigan Posts: 93	Originally posted by Dale: I understand and agree. No complex software is ever finished, perfect, or bug-free. And underlying operating system changes can require changes to application software. But does removal of the Beta tag indicate the software is "finished, perfect, or bug-free"? Not in my experience. It merely indicates the product has received sufficient testing to be reliable and "major" bug free with the vast majority of systems.

03-24-2010, 01:40 PM	#16
Dale Banned Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Western Missouri Posts: 960	Originally posted by Jim Sachs: Sorry - don't know anything about Funnyfish. I don't think we expected you to. My point was that Prolific's Funnyfish has been "called Beta - without any changes, updates, or bug-fixes" for 3 years. Prolific's MA3 Beta..... ....has a forum.

03-24-2010, 02:27 PM	#17
JohnWho Registered Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Tampa Bay Area, Florida Posts: 486	Originally posted by Dale: ....has a forum. which is not in beta.

03-25-2010, 05:20 AM	#18
feldon34 Forum Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Rock Hill, SC Posts: 10,939	It shows just how the relationship between this forum and Prolific has deteriorated that they never even told me about Funnyfish. The price for me trying to hold them accountable. "Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed. Everything else is public relations." - George Orwell "If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal." - Emma Goldman

03-25-2010, 09:35 AM	#19
henemly asdf Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Hiko, CommieFagnia Posts: 278	Originally posted by Dale: * Web Designer - 4/17/2007 says: Status Available 3 years? Web designers are hard to find?

03-25-2010, 11:21 AM	#20
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,788	Prolific's fix has filtered through the searchbots, and a Google search for SereneScreen now comes up with the proper text. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium