first impressions on ga beta 0.9 - Page 3

ewald · 04-23-2003, 02:16 AM

Originally posted by Reichart
Resolution: We cut the Res in HALF! If not ¼. The program was 10 Megs 15 days ago. It is now 1.5 Megs. We are planning a hi-res version when we do the widescreen. Both will be in the same package most likely. So if you have the bandwidth, and the res, go for it! We may start doing this with all the products.

that would be great !!!

SunKing · 04-23-2003, 05:41 AM

Originally posted by Reichart
We are planning a hi-res version when we do the widescreen. Both will be in the same package most likely. So if you have the bandwidth, and the res, go for it! We may start doing this with all the products.

WooHoo! That's the best news I've heard all day.

roseangel · 04-23-2003, 05:54 AM

Just some small ideas for future updates:

When I asked about "nostrils" I meant the small bumps that goldfish have between their eyes and mouth - these fish's faces are too smooth to look real. Also Algernon seems to be cross-eyed (the pupil is not centred in the eye).

The tails should glide out more when moving forwards, and there is a lot less "flapping" in real-life.

The front plant on the right side seems to have blue background still attached.

The white part of the fins, in particular the tail fins, is usually much more translucent and less reflective.

The rocks have a whitish covering on their top, I think it would look better if this was a bit darker.

Ps: how about a plant picker - like the fish picker?

Tiny Turtle · 04-23-2003, 06:46 AM

Brad,
I agree. A hi-res background would be needed on that one.

Roseangel,
Great suggestions – All of 'em

/Tiny Seconding

cjmaddy · 04-23-2003, 08:39 AM

The front plant on the right side seems to have blue background still attached.

I must say I hadn't noticed that blue! - It's quite obvious isn't it!

...... and hasn't anyone else noticed the Vallisneria type plant at the front left has no roots! ..... No one here seems to want to know! .......... You did ask us to comment and give feedback!

And whilst on the subject of colour, - the Elodia/Egria type at the back looks a little unhealthy! .... (dead?)

Jim Sachs · 04-23-2003, 09:01 AM

Kona001 - No, my Freshwater Tank will not have goldfish, just freshwater tropicals.

kona001 · 04-23-2003, 01:31 PM

Thanks for replying Jim =)

Goldfish would get eaten up by most of the fish in your tank I would assume. Or to make it realistic, you would have to have all of the fish munch slowly on the goldfishes tails until it dissapears.
I know because it happened to one of my goldfish once I dropped in a silver dollar fish which happens to be in the piranha family, but with no teeth. The goldfish survived and the tail grew back after a few months so everything was ok.

kona001 · 04-23-2003, 01:33 PM

Ooohh, a high resolution background would be awesome =)

top_Cat · 04-23-2003, 04:13 PM

I think it looks great, the best screensaver I have seen

but I agree that the textures do need a lot of improving, the outline of the plants is very obvious (maybe more alpha blending is needed?) and the rock looks pretty pixalated (artfacts)

Reichart · 04-23-2003, 04:15 PM

1. Q: I think it looks great, the best screensaver I have seen

A: Thanks. Every day we fix, change, and improve. It is a lot of fun. Not bad for a beta though

cjmaddy · 04-23-2003, 04:46 PM

I think the bubbles under the carpet are in action!

Nemo · 04-23-2003, 04:59 PM

High resolution?
Oooooh, bring it on!

Jav400 · 04-23-2003, 07:08 PM

Yeah, I'll give that a shot, and now I can get it in seconds also.

Mountainmaster · 04-23-2003, 07:14 PM

roseangel wrote:
Ps: how about a plant picker - like the fish picker?

Ok, a very quick and dirty job: http://home.wanadoo.nl/sfinx98/progs/plantpicker.zip

And you have to set the plants before firing up GA.

Pushwall · 04-23-2003, 08:10 PM

I've noticed a couple more bugs that hopefully will be fixed in final release:

*1. When you have all plants turned on, I've noticed three times where a goldfish has been behind the front plant on the left and then morphed right through it to the front.

*2. This beta appears to have the old Windows Me problem where sometimes the screensaver will minimize and disappear leaving the Goldfish tab on the taskbar (just like hitting Alt-Tab). Clicking on the Goldfish tab on the taskbar will redisplay the screensaver properly. (This was a bug in the older versions of Marine Aquarium with Windows ME,...I haven't encountered it yet in Marine Aquarium 2.)

Reichart · 04-23-2003, 08:34 PM

Thanks. Will do.

Ralph · 04-23-2003, 09:14 PM

How many fish are in this beta.... I see references to 5 but all I have is 3 (and I assume most others as well).
And, for what it is worth... The tail wagging seems too scripted and happens more frequently when the fish are facing away or head on. It creates a un-natural randomness that provides more time for the fish to moon the viewer.

Nikemboka · 04-23-2003, 10:19 PM

Purchased it this afternoon. I think it is great even for a beta

memilm · 04-24-2003, 04:22 AM

To Mountainmaster:

how about a picker for GA?

feldon34 · 04-24-2003, 11:28 AM

Originally posted by Pushwall
I've noticed a couple more bugs that hopefully will be fixed in final release:

*1. When you have all plants turned on, I've noticed three times where a goldfish has been behind the front plant on the left and then morphed right through it to the front.

*2. This beta appears to have the old Windows Me problem where sometimes the screensaver will minimize and disappear leaving the Goldfish tab on the taskbar (just like hitting Alt-Tab). Clicking on the Goldfish tab on the taskbar will redisplay the screensaver properly. (This was a bug in the older versions of Marine Aquarium with Windows ME,...I haven't encountered it yet in Marine Aquarium 2.)

This exists in a recent build of MA2 but was fixed in the latest latest (5590).

04-23-2003, 05:41 AM	#42
SunKing Registered Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 238	Originally posted by Reichart We are planning a hi-res version when we do the widescreen. Both will be in the same package most likely. So if you have the bandwidth, and the res, go for it! We may start doing this with all the products. WooHoo! That's the best news I've heard all day. My humble Homepage

04-23-2003, 06:46 AM	#44
Tiny Turtle is pleased Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Stockholm, Sweden Posts: 7,365	Brad, I agree. A hi-res background would be needed on that one. Roseangel, Great suggestions – All of 'em /Tiny Seconding Thanks to Morgan, Tiny Snapshots is up and running again with "Tiny Järvafält" as the latest addition – Go have a look and tell me what you think. "We knew the world would not be the same. A few people laughed, a few people cried, most people were silent. I remembered the line from the Hindu scripture, the Bhagavad-Gita. Vishnu is trying to persuade the Prince that he should do his duty and to impress him takes on his multi-armed form and says, 'Now, I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds.' I suppose we all thought that, one way or another." /Robert Oppenheimer on witnessing the first thermonuclear detonation in history.

04-23-2003, 09:01 AM	#46
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,771	Kona001 - No, my Freshwater Tank will not have goldfish, just freshwater tropicals. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

04-23-2003, 01:33 PM	#48
kona001 New Husband and new Aquarium Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Miami, Florida Posts: 318	Ooohh, a high resolution background would be awesome =) "We will not tire, we will not falter, and we will not fail"-W2

04-23-2003, 04:15 PM	#50
Reichart CTO Prolific Publishing Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Maui Posts: 423	1. Q: I think it looks great, the best screensaver I have seen A: Thanks. Every day we fix, change, and improve. It is a lot of fun. Not bad for a beta though *Reichart...* , CTO, Prolific Publishing, Inc. Come visit us Prolific Publishing, Inc.

04-23-2003, 02:16 AM	#41
ewald Registered Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 24	Originally posted by Reichart Resolution: We cut the Res in HALF! If not ¼. The program was 10 Megs 15 days ago. It is now 1.5 Megs. We are planning a hi-res version when we do the widescreen. Both will be in the same package most likely. So if you have the bandwidth, and the res, go for it! We may start doing this with all the products. that would be great !!!

04-23-2003, 05:54 AM	#43
roseangel Registered Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 46	Just some small ideas for future updates: When I asked about "nostrils" I meant the small bumps that goldfish have between their eyes and mouth - these fish's faces are too smooth to look real. Also Algernon seems to be cross-eyed (the pupil is not centred in the eye). The tails should glide out more when moving forwards, and there is a lot less "flapping" in real-life. The front plant on the right side seems to have blue background still attached. The white part of the fins, in particular the tail fins, is usually much more translucent and less reflective. The rocks have a whitish covering on their top, I think it would look better if this was a bit darker. Ps: how about a plant picker - like the fish picker?

04-23-2003, 08:39 AM	#45
cjmaddy Registered Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Lancashire, UK Posts: 7,854	The front plant on the right side seems to have blue background still attached. I must say I hadn't noticed that blue! - It's quite obvious isn't it! ...... and hasn't anyone else noticed the Vallisneria type plant at the front left has no roots! ..... No one here seems to want to know! .......... You did ask* us to comment and give feedback!* And whilst on the subject of colour, - the Elodia/Egria type at the back looks a little unhealthy! .... (dead?)

04-23-2003, 01:31 PM	#47
kona001 New Husband and new Aquarium Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Miami, Florida Posts: 318	Thanks for replying Jim =) Goldfish would get eaten up by most of the fish in your tank I would assume. Or to make it realistic, you would have to have all of the fish munch slowly on the goldfishes tails until it dissapears. I know because it happened to one of my goldfish once I dropped in a silver dollar fish which happens to be in the piranha family, but with no teeth. The goldfish survived and the tail grew back after a few months so everything was ok.

04-23-2003, 04:13 PM	#49
top_Cat Registered Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: UK Posts: 23	I think it looks great, the best screensaver I have seen but I agree that the textures do need a lot of improving, the outline of the plants is very obvious (maybe more alpha blending is needed?) and the rock looks pretty pixalated (artfacts)

04-23-2003, 04:46 PM	#51
cjmaddy Registered Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Lancashire, UK Posts: 7,854	I think the bubbles under the carpet are in action!

04-23-2003, 04:59 PM	#52
Nemo Registered Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 8	High resolution? Oooooh, bring it on!

04-23-2003, 07:08 PM	#53
Jav400 Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Tennessee Posts: 9,725	Yeah, I'll give that a shot, and now I can get it in seconds also. Michael Administrator of Inside:SereneScreen Aquarium Forum, Chatroom, Fan Site & *Gallery* DVD Collection

04-23-2003, 08:10 PM	#55
Pushwall Fellow Twang Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 133	I've noticed a couple more bugs that hopefully will be fixed in final release: 1. When you have all plants turned on, I've noticed three times where a goldfish has been behind the front plant on the left and then morphed right through it to the front. 2. This beta appears to have the old Windows Me problem where sometimes the screensaver will minimize and disappear leaving the Goldfish tab on the taskbar (just like hitting Alt-Tab). Clicking on the Goldfish tab on the taskbar will redisplay the screensaver properly. (This was a bug in the older versions of Marine Aquarium with Windows ME,...I haven't encountered it yet in Marine Aquarium 2.)

04-23-2003, 08:34 PM	#56
Reichart CTO Prolific Publishing Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Maui Posts: 423	Thanks. Will do. *Reichart...* , CTO, Prolific Publishing, Inc. Come visit us Prolific Publishing, Inc.

04-23-2003, 09:14 PM	#57
Ralph Retired Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Edmonton Alberta Ca Posts: 2,438	How many fish are in this beta.... I see references to 5 but all I have is 3 (and I assume most others as well). And, for what it is worth... The tail wagging seems too scripted and happens more frequently when the fish are facing away or head on. It creates a un-natural randomness that provides more time for the fish to moon the viewer. Ludwig Wittgenstein (1889 – 1951) The limits of my language are the limits of my mind. All I know is what I have words for.

04-23-2003, 10:19 PM	#58
Nikemboka Registered Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 1	Purchased it this afternoon. I think it is great even for a beta

04-24-2003, 04:22 AM	#59
memilm Registered Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: germany Posts: 259	To Mountainmaster: how about a picker for GA?

04-24-2003, 11:28 AM	#60
feldon34 Forum Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Rock Hill, SC Posts: 10,938	Originally posted by Pushwall I've noticed a couple more bugs that hopefully will be fixed in final release: 1. When you have all plants turned on, I've noticed three times where a goldfish has been behind the front plant on the left and then morphed right through it to the front. 2. This beta appears to have the old Windows Me problem where sometimes the screensaver will minimize and disappear leaving the Goldfish tab on the taskbar (just like hitting Alt-Tab). Clicking on the Goldfish tab on the taskbar will redisplay the screensaver properly. (This was a bug in the older versions of Marine Aquarium with Windows ME,...I haven't encountered it yet in Marine Aquarium 2.) This exists in a recent build of MA2 but was fixed in the latest latest (5590). "Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed. Everything else is public relations." - George Orwell "If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal." - Emma Goldman