Details

Submariner · 09-15-2003, 01:22 PM

I found this screensaver by accident. It looks
terrific. But there are some details missing.
First, the light reflecting on the coral and
and bottom of the tank does not reflect on the
fish. Second, there is no shadow cast by the fish.
Putting a shadow will anchor (pardon the pun) the fish in place making them look even more realistic. Hopefully these will be fixed. Does anyone disagree?

Thanks

Jim Sachs · 09-15-2003, 02:00 PM

We've talked about this many times over the past few years. When I wrote the program, the technology just wasn't up to mapping the lightplay on the fish. it is now, and the next revision will have it.

The typical lighting in a saltwater tank is so diffuse that anything more than a couple of inches off the floor doesn't cast a shadow. I posted some pics demonstaring this the last time it came up, but I don't remember which thread it was in.

James · 09-15-2003, 04:32 PM

Originally posted by Jim Sachs
I posted some pics demonstaring this the last time it came up, but I don't remember which thread it was in.

Ask Moragn, I like to see it too

feldon34 · 09-15-2003, 04:47 PM

I actually don't remember those pictures. Go figure!

If someone finds pictures of a fish relatively close to coral, please post it. Realize that your photo might have a shadow because of unusual lighting conditions. The point here is that a saltwater tank can easily be set up with lighting such that fish will have no noticeable shadows on the gravel.

cjmaddy · 09-15-2003, 04:52 PM

I think that's the MORAY + VALENTINE HACKS thread, - gets a bit controversial though!

Jim's link was ....
http://www.xmission.com/~plporter/reef/tank5.jpg

Tiny Turtle · 09-16-2003, 12:50 AM

Originally posted by Jim Sachs
. . . and the next revision will have it.

Aahhhhh...

Don't you just love it when mr. S gives out a tidbit? Thanks for that one, Jim (as if I don't look forward to future versions as it is...)

/Tiny Tidbit

Jim Sachs · 09-16-2003, 08:53 AM

Well, let's not get too excited. I still have an awful lot of work to do on the Freshwater program before I turn my attention back to the Marine tank. (But the Freshwater fish will have lightplay on them.)

Submariner · 09-16-2003, 09:22 AM

When will the next version come out? I am dying to see
the lightplay on the fish.

Sub

Yellow Tang · 09-16-2003, 10:04 AM

The 1st thing you have to learn at this forum is: don't ask WHEN! You'll never get an answer. We are very patient here, and it's done when it's done. And welcome to the forum!

ESHIREY · 09-16-2003, 02:28 PM

This is true . And a BIG welcome . You'll love this forum . Everyone is nice to each other and are great for help .

Submariner · 09-16-2003, 05:52 PM

I have been on this forum only two days so i still
have a lot to learn. Thanks for the heads up.

09-15-2003, 01:22 PM	#1
Submariner Registered Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Connecticut Posts: 901	Details I found this screensaver by accident. It looks terrific. But there are some details missing. First, the light reflecting on the coral and and bottom of the tank does not reflect on the fish. Second, there is no shadow cast by the fish. Putting a shadow will anchor (pardon the pun) the fish in place making them look even more realistic. Hopefully these will be fixed. Does anyone disagree? Thanks

09-15-2003, 02:00 PM	#2
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,775	We've talked about this many times over the past few years. When I wrote the program, the technology just wasn't up to mapping the lightplay on the fish. it is now, and the next revision will have it. The typical lighting in a saltwater tank is so diffuse that anything more than a couple of inches off the floor doesn't cast a shadow. I posted some pics demonstaring this the last time it came up, but I don't remember which thread it was in. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

09-15-2003, 04:32 PM	#3
James Principal Engineer as SDET Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Was in Auckland, New Zealand, Now in Taipei, Taiwan Posts: 1,406	Originally posted by Jim Sachs I posted some pics demonstaring this the last time it came up, but I don't remember which thread it was in. Ask Moragn, I like to see it too James C Chen Principal Engineer as SDET, Connected Services HTC Corporation 88 Section 3. Zhongxing Road Xindian District, New Taipei City 231, Taiwan www.htc.com

09-15-2003, 04:47 PM	#4
feldon34 Forum Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Rock Hill, SC Posts: 10,938	I actually don't remember those pictures. Go figure! If someone finds pictures of a fish relatively close to coral, please post it. Realize that your photo might have a shadow because of unusual lighting conditions. The point here is that a saltwater tank can easily be set up with lighting such that fish will have no noticeable shadows on the gravel. "Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed. Everything else is public relations." - George Orwell "If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal." - Emma Goldman

09-16-2003, 08:53 AM	#7
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,775	Well, let's not get too excited. I still have an awful lot of work to do on the Freshwater program before I turn my attention back to the Marine tank. (But the Freshwater fish will have lightplay on them.) Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

09-15-2003, 04:52 PM	#5
cjmaddy Registered Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Lancashire, UK Posts: 7,854	I think that's the MORAY + VALENTINE HACKS thread, - gets a bit controversial though! Jim's link was .... http://www.xmission.com/~plporter/reef/tank5.jpg

09-16-2003, 12:50 AM	#6
Tiny Turtle is pleased Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Stockholm, Sweden Posts: 7,365	Originally posted by Jim Sachs . . . and the next revision will have it. Aahhhhh... Don't you just love it when mr. S gives out a tidbit? Thanks for that one, Jim (as if I don't look forward to future versions as it is...) /Tiny Tidbit

09-16-2003, 09:22 AM	#8
Submariner Registered Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Connecticut Posts: 901	When will the next version come out? I am dying to see the lightplay on the fish. Sub

09-16-2003, 10:04 AM	#9
Yellow Tang YT Join Date: Jan 2002 Tournaments Won: 1 Location: Germany Posts: 729	The 1st thing you have to learn at this forum is: don't ask WHEN! You'll never get an answer. We are very patient here, and it's done when it's done. And welcome to the forum!

09-16-2003, 02:28 PM	#10
ESHIREY Smilie Dragon Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Lebanon, PA Posts: 4,725	This is true . And a BIG welcome . You'll love this forum . Everyone is nice to each other and are great for help . Thank you for taking the time to read this.

09-16-2003, 05:52 PM	#11
Submariner Registered Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Connecticut Posts: 901	I have been on this forum only two days so i still have a lot to learn. Thanks for the heads up.