Driver Issue SIS Graphics.

Stew2000 · 12-22-2008, 10:53 AM

Fish and backdrop do a trace effect..
pic and dxdiag attached.

feldon34 · 12-22-2008, 11:59 AM

I'm not familiar with the SiS 651 chipset. I see that it has 32MB of memory.

Based on your past posts, I am guessing that this is a new issue in MA3 7m and that you did not have this problem at all in versions up to 7i?

Stew2000 · 12-22-2008, 12:55 PM

I've only just come about this problem because I formatted my laptop and decided to try MA3 on it.
I have tried 7j and 7m but has same problem. I do have alot of backups so I will see later if the older betas work.

Doesn't help when my laptop is running primitive graphics drivers.

Jav400 · 12-22-2008, 01:09 PM

For anyone that needs to test older versions in situations like this I have all the old Beta's stored here.

feldon34 · 12-22-2008, 02:06 PM

Definitely need to upgrade to the latest drivers possible. I've seen ones for 2006.

Jim Sachs · 12-22-2008, 02:36 PM

That card may be a little light to run MA3.

Stew2000 · 12-23-2008, 04:30 AM

1. How am I supposed to go back to older betas when they say "Beta has expired"?
2. These are the latest drivers.
3. I think Jim could be right.

I'll keep trying latest betas on my laptop to see if any changes help.

Jav400 · 12-23-2008, 05:21 AM

Set the date back on your system. Just make sure you set it forward again after testing.

Stew2000 · 12-23-2008, 05:34 AM

I went back to Beta1 and there was no change.
I think I need a better laptop

Jav400 · 12-23-2008, 11:00 AM

Yep, probably so. Looks like MA3 is past the capabilities of that one.

Stew2000 · 12-23-2008, 12:11 PM

I still have MA2.6 working

Jim Sachs · 12-23-2008, 12:14 PM

That's exactly why we will continue to sell and support MA2.6.

Stew2000 · 12-24-2008, 04:11 PM

My laptop is now 960MB (ish) and not 480MB. and I got my graphics from 32MB to 64MB.
only real problem is still the graphics. it doesn't like OpenGL too much. it only really likes the basics.

feldon34 · 12-24-2008, 05:18 PM

Marine Aquarium 3 is a DirectX application, not OpenGL.

Stew2000 · 12-25-2008, 04:38 AM

Which DirectX is it based around?

pvernam · 12-25-2008, 06:33 AM

I believe Jim has said (several times) that MA3 requires DirectX 9. The first entry in the MA3 - READ THIS FIRST! thread (bullet 5) says "DX8/9", and I'm pretty sure I've read elsewhere in this forum that DX9 was required.

Jim Sachs · 12-25-2008, 11:36 AM

Yes, DirectX 9c.

12-22-2008, 11:59 AM	#2
feldon34 Forum Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Rock Hill, SC Posts: 10,939	I'm not familiar with the SiS 651 chipset. I see that it has 32MB of memory. Based on your past posts, I am guessing that this is a new issue in MA3 7m and that you did not have this problem at all in versions up to 7i? "Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed. Everything else is public relations." - George Orwell "If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal." - Emma Goldman

12-22-2008, 01:09 PM	#4
Jav400 Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Tennessee Posts: 9,725	For anyone that needs to test older versions in situations like this I have all the old Beta's stored here. Michael Administrator of Inside:SereneScreen Aquarium Forum, Chatroom, Fan Site & *Gallery* DVD Collection

12-22-2008, 02:06 PM	#5
feldon34 Forum Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Rock Hill, SC Posts: 10,939	Definitely need to upgrade to the latest drivers possible. I've seen ones for 2006. "Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed. Everything else is public relations." - George Orwell "If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal." - Emma Goldman

12-22-2008, 02:36 PM	#6
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,791	That card may be a little light to run MA3. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

12-23-2008, 05:21 AM	#8
Jav400 Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Tennessee Posts: 9,725	Set the date back on your system. Just make sure you set it forward again after testing. Michael Administrator of Inside:SereneScreen Aquarium Forum, Chatroom, Fan Site & *Gallery* DVD Collection

12-22-2008, 12:55 PM	#3
Stew2000 Registered Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: UK Posts: 89	I've only just come about this problem because I formatted my laptop and decided to try MA3 on it. I have tried 7j and 7m but has same problem. I do have alot of backups so I will see later if the older betas work. Doesn't help when my laptop is running primitive graphics drivers.

12-23-2008, 04:30 AM	#7
Stew2000 Registered Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: UK Posts: 89	1. How am I supposed to go back to older betas when they say "Beta has expired"? 2. These are the latest drivers. 3. I think Jim could be right. I'll keep trying latest betas on my laptop to see if any changes help.

12-23-2008, 05:34 AM	#9
Stew2000 Registered Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: UK Posts: 89	I went back to Beta1 and there was no change. I think I need a better laptop

12-23-2008, 11:00 AM	#10
Jav400 Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Tennessee Posts: 9,725	Yep, probably so. Looks like MA3 is past the capabilities of that one. Michael Administrator of Inside:SereneScreen Aquarium Forum, Chatroom, Fan Site & *Gallery* DVD Collection

12-23-2008, 12:11 PM	#11
Stew2000 Registered Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: UK Posts: 89	I still have MA2.6 working

12-23-2008, 12:14 PM	#12
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,791	That's exactly why we will continue to sell and support MA2.6. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

12-24-2008, 04:11 PM	#13
Stew2000 Registered Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: UK Posts: 89	My laptop is now 960MB (ish) and not 480MB. and I got my graphics from 32MB to 64MB. only real problem is still the graphics. it doesn't like OpenGL too much. it only really likes the basics.

12-24-2008, 05:18 PM	#14
feldon34 Forum Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Rock Hill, SC Posts: 10,939	Marine Aquarium 3 is a DirectX application, not OpenGL. "Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed. Everything else is public relations." - George Orwell "If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal." - Emma Goldman

12-25-2008, 04:38 AM	#15
Stew2000 Registered Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: UK Posts: 89	Which DirectX is it based around?

12-25-2008, 06:33 AM	#16
pvernam wobbegong Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Nahant, MA Posts: 37	I believe Jim has said (several times) that MA3 requires DirectX 9. The first entry in the MA3 - READ THIS FIRST! thread (bullet 5) says "DX8/9", and I'm pretty sure I've read elsewhere in this forum that DX9 was required.

12-25-2008, 11:36 AM	#17
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,791	Yes, DirectX 9c. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium