Bringing old crystal from from 2 into 3

M. Sherwood · 08-28-2009, 04:30 PM

I understand you can bring the old crystal, with time clock, calendar and logo into Version 3. Can you let me know how to do that?

Jim Sachs · 08-29-2009, 12:09 AM

Well, you can't really bring over the old one, but MA3 has its own. Just turn it on in Settings.

M. Sherwood · 09-08-2009, 10:01 AM

I know there is a new crystal in Beta 3, I just really liked the old one - it looked like an actual crystal and with the customization of the logo, it was very cool. The new one looks a little too neon-green. Will we be able to get the old one back again, or can it be imported from 2 into 3?

feldon34 · 09-08-2009, 10:15 AM

The crystal graphic is the same, it was photographed at a higher quality and then rebuilt from the same piece of quartz.
You can add PNG customized logos even easier than before.
The only thing missing is the "etched look" date/time which is forthcoming. It will be an alternative to the "neon green" date/time.

What else do you think it is missing?

M. Sherwood · 09-08-2009, 12:26 PM

The format (or font, for lack of a better description) for the clock and calendar is different, in addition to the neon green. The etched look and white lettering of the crystal is great and I'm glad to hear its coming back! I've had so may comments from clients that just love it, and think its especially cool that the firm logo can be in the tank as well! Keep up the great work.

Jim Sachs · 09-08-2009, 01:58 PM

When I get some time, I'll be adding a section that will allow the user to choose from many different colors for the digital clock/calendar, and well as several different face styles for the analog clock.

rctneil · 09-08-2009, 04:28 PM

When you make them, Is there a chance that you could make matching styles for each item. So you could set them to a predefined "Etched" setting and the Analog clock, digital clock and calendar would all take on that style. It would amke the crystal just more consistent.

For this, a checkbox could be added in the settings window labelled "Make Consistent" then whatever style is chosen will be consistent accross all the items. This would also allow the user to choose different syles or themes per item if they so wish!

Dale · 09-08-2009, 05:53 PM

Originally posted by M. Sherwood:

..... in addition to the neon green. ....

I don't see any obvious "neon green" on the crystal (or logos) on any of my 6 systems (3 different OS) that are running MA3.

Could you describe where you see that, please?

Jim Sachs · 09-08-2009, 08:47 PM

To me, it's a fairly tasteful blue, but each person sees it differently, I guess.

Wizwad · 09-09-2009, 06:02 AM

Could I add a suggestion for when you revisit the crystal? Could you put in a fade between displays?

I love *what* the crystal displays as it is now, but the thing which keeps jerking my attention is the sudden flip from one aspect to the next (e.g. from image to time). It's the one item which disturbs my serenity when I'm doing stuff at home and have the screensaver running.

Jim Sachs · 09-09-2009, 08:41 AM

Yes, it's planned.

henemly · 09-09-2009, 12:34 PM

Originally posted by M. Sherwood:

I know there is a new crystal in Beta 3, I just really liked the old one - it looked like an actual crystal and with the customization of the logo, it was very cool.

Me too. I especially like v2.6's "quite a bit bigger" one.
Running the same resolution on both programs, grayscaled:

Jim Sachs · 09-09-2009, 12:39 PM

Well, then stick with 2.6.

Lyonness · 09-17-2009, 11:22 PM

Originally posted by feldon33:

The crystal graphic is the same, it was photographed at a higher quality and then rebuilt from the same piece of quartz.
You can add PNG customized logos even easier than before.
The only thing missing is the "etched look" date/time which is forthcoming. It will be an alternative to the "neon green" date/time.

What else do you think it is missing?

I just upgraded from 2.6 to 3. And I love it. But I do miss having my logo "etched" into the crystal. I saw that you mentioned that the etched look will be coming for the date and time. Will it also be possible to have your own logos in the etched look as well?

Jim Sachs · 09-18-2009, 09:14 AM

That's quite a bit of programming. I'd rather stick to the policy of what you see is what you get. In other words, the image in the crystal is exactly what you have created. The etched look for the clock/calendar will be a whole separate set of images, and not created in programming from the existing set. Much more control and detail can be achieved this way.

feldon34 · 09-18-2009, 10:22 AM

Originally posted by Lyonness:

I just upgraded from 2.6 to 3. And I love it. But I do miss having my logo "etched" into the crystal. I saw that you mentioned that the etched look will be coming for the date and time. Will it also be possible to have your own logos in the etched look as well?

I'm sorry I don't understand what you mean by not having an etched logo in MA3?

I just took this screenshot from MA3:
ma3logo.jpg

Maybe you are thinking of the really awful looking BMP logos which MA2 would add a shadow effect to?
pngvsbmp.jpg

If you have a logo you'd like made, please upload the image here as an attachment and I'll see what I can do.

flyingfish · 09-22-2009, 08:29 PM

Hi,

Where do I find out how to do a logo for the crystal in 3. I tried to bring over one from 2.6 but it didn't work out.

feldon34 · 09-22-2009, 09:30 PM

They can be made in Photoshop or Paintshop Pro as well as really any other application that can export transparent PNGs.

I wrote a tutorial for Photoshop:
https://www.feldoncentral.com/Sachs/malogo/guide/

If you post your artwork here in an attachment, I might have time to convert it for you. Just click "Quote" to bring up the advanced editor, scroll down to Attachments, click Manage Attachments, and pick your graphic(s) there.

RixsterSFL · 10-14-2009, 02:13 PM

Originally posted by Jim Sachs:

To me, it's a fairly tasteful blue, but each person sees it differently, I guess.

Any ETA as to when the etch date and time will be added. I also see the "blue" characters and truly like the etch characters so much better.

Thanks!

Rick

henemly · 10-14-2009, 03:44 PM

Think I read somewhere it will be in 2011.

08-28-2009, 04:30 PM	#1
M. Sherwood Registered Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 3	Bringing old crystal from from 2 into 3 I understand you can bring the old crystal, with time clock, calendar and logo into Version 3. Can you let me know how to do that?

08-29-2009, 12:09 AM	#2
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,791	Well, you can't really bring over the old one, but MA3 has its own. Just turn it on in Settings. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

09-08-2009, 10:01 AM	#3
M. Sherwood Registered Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 3	The old cystal looks better I know there is a new crystal in Beta 3, I just really liked the old one - it looked like an actual crystal and with the customization of the logo, it was very cool. The new one looks a little too neon-green. Will we be able to get the old one back again, or can it be imported from 2 into 3?

09-08-2009, 10:15 AM	#4
feldon34 Forum Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Rock Hill, SC Posts: 10,939	The crystal graphic is the same, it was photographed at a higher quality and then rebuilt from the same piece of quartz. You can add PNG customized logos even easier than before. The only thing missing is the "etched look" date/time which is forthcoming. It will be an alternative to the "neon green" date/time. What else do you think it is missing? "Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed. Everything else is public relations." - George Orwell "If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal." - Emma Goldman

09-08-2009, 01:58 PM	#6
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,791	When I get some time, I'll be adding a section that will allow the user to choose from many different colors for the digital clock/calendar, and well as several different face styles for the analog clock. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

09-08-2009, 12:26 PM	#5
M. Sherwood Registered Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 3	The format (or font, for lack of a better description) for the clock and calendar is different, in addition to the neon green. The etched look and white lettering of the crystal is great and I'm glad to hear its coming back! I've had so may comments from clients that just love it, and think its especially cool that the firm logo can be in the tank as well! Keep up the great work.

09-08-2009, 04:28 PM	#7
rctneil Registered Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 239	When you make them, Is there a chance that you could make matching styles for each item. So you could set them to a predefined "Etched" setting and the Analog clock, digital clock and calendar would all take on that style. It would amke the crystal just more consistent. For this, a checkbox could be added in the settings window labelled "Make Consistent" then whatever style is chosen will be consistent accross all the items. This would also allow the user to choose different syles or themes per item if they so wish!

09-08-2009, 05:53 PM	#8
Dale Banned Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Western Missouri Posts: 960	Originally posted by M. Sherwood: ..... in addition to the neon green. .... I don't see any obvious "neon green" on the crystal (or logos) on any of my 6 systems (3 different OS) that are running MA3. Could you describe where you see that, please?

09-08-2009, 08:47 PM	#9
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,791	To me, it's a fairly tasteful blue, but each person sees it differently, I guess. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

09-09-2009, 06:02 AM	#10
Wizwad Only me... Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Essex, England Posts: 2,584	Could I add a suggestion for when you revisit the crystal? Could you put in a fade between displays? I love what the crystal displays as it is now, but the thing which keeps jerking my attention is the sudden flip from one aspect to the next (e.g. from image to time). It's the one item which disturbs my serenity when I'm doing stuff at home and have the screensaver running. Mark ----------- Intel i7 12700K \| Aorus Z690 Pro \| Corsair DDR5 5600 32GB \| Asus Dual RTX3060ti 6GB v2 Mini OC \| Corsair RM850 Gold PSU \| 1TB NVMe M.2 WD Black SN850 \| 4TB Seagate BarraCuda HDD \| Corsair Airflow 5000D Case \| HP 32QHD 4K Monitor \| Windows 11 x64 Professional

09-09-2009, 08:41 AM	#11
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,791	Yes, it's planned. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

09-09-2009, 12:34 PM	#12
henemly asdf Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Hiko, CommieFagnia Posts: 278	Originally posted by M. Sherwood: I know there is a new crystal in Beta 3, I just really liked the old one - it looked like an actual crystal and with the customization of the logo, it was very cool. Me too. I especially like v2.6's "quite a bit bigger" one. Running the same resolution on both programs, grayscaled:

09-09-2009, 12:39 PM	#13
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,791	Well, then stick with 2.6. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

09-17-2009, 11:22 PM	#14
Lyonness Registered Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 1	Originally posted by feldon33: The crystal graphic is the same, it was photographed at a higher quality and then rebuilt from the same piece of quartz. You can add PNG customized logos even easier than before. The only thing missing is the "etched look" date/time which is forthcoming. It will be an alternative to the "neon green" date/time. What else do you think it is missing? I just upgraded from 2.6 to 3. And I love it. But I do miss having my logo "etched" into the crystal. I saw that you mentioned that the etched look will be coming for the date and time. Will it also be possible to have your own logos in the etched look as well?

09-18-2009, 09:14 AM	#15
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,791	That's quite a bit of programming. I'd rather stick to the policy of what you see is what you get. In other words, the image in the crystal is exactly what you have created. The etched look for the clock/calendar will be a whole separate set of images, and not created in programming from the existing set. Much more control and detail can be achieved this way. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

09-18-2009, 10:22 AM	#16
feldon34 Forum Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Rock Hill, SC Posts: 10,939	Originally posted by Lyonness: I just upgraded from 2.6 to 3. And I love it. But I do miss having my logo "etched" into the crystal. I saw that you mentioned that the etched look will be coming for the date and time. Will it also be possible to have your own logos in the etched look as well? I'm sorry I don't understand what you mean by not having an etched logo in MA3? I just took this screenshot from MA3: ma3logo.jpg Maybe you are thinking of the really awful looking BMP logos which MA2 would add a shadow effect to? pngvsbmp.jpg If you have a logo you'd like made, please upload the image here as an attachment and I'll see what I can do. "Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed. Everything else is public relations." - George Orwell "If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal." - Emma Goldman

09-22-2009, 08:29 PM	#17
flyingfish Registered Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 18	Hi, Where do I find out how to do a logo for the crystal in 3. I tried to bring over one from 2.6 but it didn't work out.

09-22-2009, 09:30 PM	#18
feldon34 Forum Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Rock Hill, SC Posts: 10,939	They can be made in Photoshop or Paintshop Pro as well as really any other application that can export transparent PNGs. I wrote a tutorial for Photoshop: https://www.feldoncentral.com/Sachs/malogo/guide/ If you post your artwork here in an attachment, I might have time to convert it for you. Just click "Quote" to bring up the advanced editor, scroll down to Attachments, click Manage Attachments, and pick your graphic(s) there. "Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed. Everything else is public relations." - George Orwell "If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal." - Emma Goldman

10-14-2009, 02:13 PM	#19
RixsterSFL Registered Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 6	Etched Date / Time Originally posted by Jim Sachs: To me, it's a fairly tasteful blue, but each person sees it differently, I guess. Any ETA as to when the etch date and time will be added. I also see the "blue" characters and truly like the etch characters so much better. Thanks! Rick

10-14-2009, 03:44 PM	#20
henemly asdf Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Hiko, CommieFagnia Posts: 278	Think I read somewhere it will be in 2011.