TV?

Mith · 11-03-2008, 04:14 AM

Hey, just thought of something. Is it possibly to put this screen saver on a disk that will play on my TV? I now you can run a computer to your TV (I think) and see it that way, but for those of us who just have the DVD player, can we do the above???

Tiny Turtle · 11-03-2008, 08:11 AM

Yes, it is possible. So is hooking your PC up to the TV. Unforunately you'll only get a resolution (720x576) when using the DVD format and naturally the fish will swim in the same way every time.

There was a DVD version of the tank released ages ago but that was nothing special, really. You should look into a program called "FRAPS" if you want to record a clip of the tank.

feldon34 · 11-03-2008, 11:52 AM

There was a DVD put out there that was very low quality. Not even widescreen anamorphic.

Tiny is right that the best tool to produce a DVD would be FRAPS. The question is do you have a big enough hard drive to record 90 minutes of the Aquarium?

And would it be best to try to record antialiased or record it at a higher resolution and scale down the resulting video?

Most people end up just building a $350 PC to run the Aquarium and hook it to their TV. MA3 looks incredible on our new Mitsubishi 65" 1080p DLP TV.

Jim Sachs · 11-03-2008, 09:14 PM

Prolific is thinking of making a hi-def DVD of MA3.

feldon34 · 11-03-2008, 10:54 PM

Excellent idea. Hopefully they either use FRAPS or modify the Aquarium engine to write high resolution JPEG files to the hard drive and feed that into a video encoder using DirectShow filters (you can route graphics, sound, and video between two programs who don't speak each other's language with DirectShow filters).

Any type of video transfer would look horrid.

Edgar · 11-04-2008, 12:02 AM

We should be able to get MA3 to generate the High resolution frames needed to create that video.
We just need to force the framerate to whatever we desire and let it take snapshot frame by frame.
It will look really slow in realtime while generating the frames but it should be correct in its playback. Then just add the music and bubbles sound separately.

Mith · 11-04-2008, 01:39 AM

Ya, I think I tried fraps once (demo maybe?) and the files for a short vid were HUGE!....

Oh well... if they figure out a way to do it I'd get one... but for now I'm still very happy with what I have.

Tiny Turtle · 11-04-2008, 03:12 AM

Originally posted by Jim Sachs:

Prolific is thinking of making a hi-def DVD of MA3.

That would be a Blu-Ray disc then?

feldon34 · 11-04-2008, 09:15 AM

Edgar,

Sounds good!

Tiny,

I'm guessin' Blu-Ray. HD-DVD lost the war. There are a lot of tropical sea life Blu-Ray videos and aquarium Blu-Ray videos out there that people run on their TVs.

Tiny Turtle · 11-04-2008, 05:59 PM

Yup, I know HD-DVD is dead – I just wanted to point out that HD content cannot be put on a regular DVD (at least not to be played back on a regular DVD player).

11-03-2008, 04:14 AM	#1
Mith Registered Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 140	TV? Hey, just thought of something. Is it possibly to put this screen saver on a disk that will play on my TV? I now you can run a computer to your TV (I think) and see it that way, but for those of us who just have the DVD player, can we do the above???

11-03-2008, 08:11 AM	#2
Tiny Turtle is pleased Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Stockholm, Sweden Posts: 7,365	Yes, it is possible. So is hooking your PC up to the TV. Unforunately you'll only get a resolution (720x576) when using the DVD format and naturally the fish will swim in the same way every time. There was a DVD version of the tank released ages ago but that was nothing special, really. You should look into a program called "FRAPS" if you want to record a clip of the tank. Thanks to Morgan, Tiny Snapshots is up and running again with "Tiny Järvafält" as the latest addition – Go have a look and tell me what you think. "We knew the world would not be the same. A few people laughed, a few people cried, most people were silent. I remembered the line from the Hindu scripture, the Bhagavad-Gita. Vishnu is trying to persuade the Prince that he should do his duty and to impress him takes on his multi-armed form and says, 'Now, I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds.' I suppose we all thought that, one way or another." /Robert Oppenheimer on witnessing the first thermonuclear detonation in history.

11-03-2008, 11:52 AM	#3
feldon34 Forum Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Rock Hill, SC Posts: 10,939	There was a DVD put out there that was very low quality. Not even widescreen anamorphic. Tiny is right that the best tool to produce a DVD would be FRAPS. The question is do you have a big enough hard drive to record 90 minutes of the Aquarium? And would it be best to try to record antialiased or record it at a higher resolution and scale down the resulting video? Most people end up just building a $350 PC to run the Aquarium and hook it to their TV. MA3 looks incredible on our new Mitsubishi 65" 1080p DLP TV. "Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed. Everything else is public relations." - George Orwell "If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal." - Emma Goldman

11-03-2008, 09:14 PM	#4
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,787	Prolific is thinking of making a hi-def DVD of MA3. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

11-03-2008, 10:54 PM	#5
feldon34 Forum Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Rock Hill, SC Posts: 10,939	Excellent idea. Hopefully they either use FRAPS or modify the Aquarium engine to write high resolution JPEG files to the hard drive and feed that into a video encoder using DirectShow filters (you can route graphics, sound, and video between two programs who don't speak each other's language with DirectShow filters). Any type of video transfer would look horrid. "Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed. Everything else is public relations." - George Orwell "If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal." - Emma Goldman

11-04-2008, 12:02 AM	#6
Edgar Prolific/SereneScreen Developer Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Norwalk, CA Posts: 513	We should be able to get MA3 to generate the High resolution frames needed to create that video. We just need to force the framerate to whatever we desire and let it take snapshot frame by frame. It will look really slow in realtime while generating the frames but it should be correct in its playback. Then just add the music and bubbles sound separately. *Edgar Tolentino* Prolific Developer www.prolific.com www.LifeGlobe.com

11-04-2008, 01:39 AM	#7
Mith Registered Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 140	Ya, I think I tried fraps once (demo maybe?) and the files for a short vid were HUGE!.... Oh well... if they figure out a way to do it I'd get one... but for now I'm still very happy with what I have.

11-04-2008, 03:12 AM	#8
Tiny Turtle is pleased Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Stockholm, Sweden Posts: 7,365	Originally posted by Jim Sachs: Prolific is thinking of making a hi-def DVD of MA3. That would be a Blu-Ray disc then? Thanks to Morgan, Tiny Snapshots is up and running again with "Tiny Järvafält" as the latest addition – Go have a look and tell me what you think. "We knew the world would not be the same. A few people laughed, a few people cried, most people were silent. I remembered the line from the Hindu scripture, the Bhagavad-Gita. Vishnu is trying to persuade the Prince that he should do his duty and to impress him takes on his multi-armed form and says, 'Now, I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds.' I suppose we all thought that, one way or another." /Robert Oppenheimer on witnessing the first thermonuclear detonation in history.

11-04-2008, 09:15 AM	#9
feldon34 Forum Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Rock Hill, SC Posts: 10,939	Edgar, Sounds good! Tiny, I'm guessin' Blu-Ray. HD-DVD lost the war. There are a lot of tropical sea life Blu-Ray videos and aquarium Blu-Ray videos out there that people run on their TVs. "Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed. Everything else is public relations." - George Orwell "If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal." - Emma Goldman

11-04-2008, 05:59 PM	#10
Tiny Turtle is pleased Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Stockholm, Sweden Posts: 7,365	Yup, I know HD-DVD is dead – I just wanted to point out that HD content cannot be put on a regular DVD (at least not to be played back on a regular DVD player). Thanks to Morgan, Tiny Snapshots is up and running again with "Tiny Järvafält" as the latest addition – Go have a look and tell me what you think. "We knew the world would not be the same. A few people laughed, a few people cried, most people were silent. I remembered the line from the Hindu scripture, the Bhagavad-Gita. Vishnu is trying to persuade the Prince that he should do his duty and to impress him takes on his multi-armed form and says, 'Now, I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds.' I suppose we all thought that, one way or another." /Robert Oppenheimer on witnessing the first thermonuclear detonation in history.