What's it look like? (Snapshot of Goldfish Aquarium)

drfish · 03-05-2003, 05:50 AM

Can we get a screen shot of this aquarium?

Jav400 · 03-05-2003, 06:14 AM

This one is supposed to be out very shortly. You will be amazed.

James · 03-05-2003, 06:14 AM

Prolific Publishing will be introducing a new product, a Goldfish Aquarium, in the coming weeks.

can we download the demo when it's out?

Jav400 · 03-05-2003, 06:45 AM

This one should be up and available within about 10-15 days ( time warp not included

).

Liath · 03-05-2003, 09:45 AM

Yay! I wasn't that interested in MAT (although I had to download it anyways

). Now I have something to look forward to.

IXNAY · 03-05-2003, 10:20 AM

Can't wait *giggle*

ringdingdiggedingdingding

feldon34 · 03-05-2003, 11:29 AM

Prolific to introduce Goldfish Aquarium
Prolific Publishing will be introducing a new goldfish-themed screen saver in the coming weeks, developed using the same tools which have been designed to help Jim Sachs in his creation of SereneScreen products.

The new Aquarium has been entirely created by Prolific artists/programmers and will initially arrive as a test version with:
3 unique goldfish varying in size and shape

Individual fish behavior

Realistic swimming/fin physics and new collision avoidance

I have seen an early version of the GA and despite Reichart's insistance that it is a primitive version, I was simply stunned.

Goldfish don't do much for me and I don't want to build up too much hype, but I think Marine Aquarium users are going to be jealous of the GA for a while (at least until the same physics/behaviors are introduced into MA).

I'd have to say that and that there has finally been a successful marraige between "hard-coded" animation (which prevents the fish from 'snapping to' different animations but instead, seamlessly melding from one to another) and physics/math-driven animation which has, in the past, yielded jerky unrealistic or non-natural results.

Derrek · 03-05-2003, 11:46 AM

What great news! First it was MAT then news of a 2.0 version in the works, now this!!

Vish · 03-05-2003, 05:47 PM

WOW ! !

Thats all I can say...

IXNAY · 03-06-2003, 08:20 AM

Hey sounds cool, do you know anything about system requirements?

Sergiales · 03-06-2003, 08:22 AM

We've received a lot of great news during the last days:
- Sachs Marine Aquarium 2.0
- GoldFish Screensaver
- PrideFlag Screensaver

Cool!

Jav400 · 03-06-2003, 09:35 AM

IXNAY,

System requirements will hopefully be in the same area as what you currently need. The physics that is used in this one will be transposed to the others after this. And believe me, if you didn't know that this thing was generated on your computer, you would swear that you were watching a real goldfish swim. Thats exactly what it looks like.

Vish · 03-06-2003, 01:22 PM

Wow ! !

Is there any specific release date?

Reichart · 03-07-2003, 04:46 AM

Feldon: Q: Individual fish behavior (AI)
A: I’m always shy of using that word, since my definition of AI is: computers grows, realizes we are annoyance, wipes humanity off planet. In other words, the moment we realize that we accomplished AI, we are doomed.

Lets call it CL, computer logic.

I developed AI for military style automated vehicles, they quickly learned to kill you (not me, just you). Then find more fuel, then “relax.”

Sergiales: Q: PrideFlag

A: that is FlagPride, www.FlagPride.com, and we also announced MA Time, which is being tested now.

Jav400: Q: System requirements will hopefully be in the same area as what you currently need.

A: Yes. But Goldfish requires a LOT more processing. It is doing some amazing things in real time.

Vish: Q: Is there any specific release date?
A: Should be in less than a month, just a three fish version.

Drfish: Q: Can we get a screen shot of this aquarium?
A: Yes. But I just know that the moment you see this you will just ask for more. More pixels, more resolution, more detail.. The requests will never stop. And yes, the plants move, and there will be bubbles.

IXNAY · 03-07-2003, 10:47 AM

Thanks for the question Jav, sounds great.
Seems to be like the freshwatertank (moving plants). Was there cowork with Jim? If not, maybe someone wasted time then...

Just one question left:
Can we get a picture with more pixels and bigger resolution and more detail?????????????????????????????????

FrogMastr · 03-07-2003, 11:47 AM

What kind of movement are we talking about?

Gentle sway or wil be moving when a fish... moves water at close range of the plant or hit the plant for biting algae?

Reichart · 03-07-2003, 12:22 PM

Originally posted by IXNAY
Was there cowork with Jim? If not, maybe someone wasted time then..

Sachs and I have worked together for over a decade and a half, we consult each other on things completely unrelated to Aquariums, or even software.

But to answer your question, yes, Sachs is part of everything. Also, the team leads that make up GoldFish (which include Will Ware, and an Artist to be announced soon, and myself, have all worked together over the years, and we even had a company together over a decade ago. The artist is world renowned, and even holds an important patent in the process of art creation, and I believe he just was nominated for an Academy Award Oscar for technical achievement, and won. Yup, our little guppies have “star” quality.

P.S. I call Jim “Sachs” because we have here:

Jim Sachs "Artist, programmer, illusionist (and I use this world carefully)"
Jim Rathbun, “MIS, Installer writer, and my right hand man”
Jim “James” Host “Biologist, programmer, grammarian, and master tester.”
Jim O’Connor “Mac Programmer, and perhaps one of the most easy going guys I have ever met”

I’m glad to call them friends, but what is it with American’s named Jim, and Brits named Simon?

IXNAY · 03-08-2003, 09:33 AM

Hey the background is green/blue, does it have other colours?

drfish · 03-08-2003, 08:43 PM

Thanks for the picture, I can't wait to see it for real!

Vish · 03-08-2003, 10:51 PM

Originally posted by Reichart
Feldon:

... just a three fish version...

When you say 3 fish version, Does that mean that it has three types of GoldFish or it means that you can have three fish max at one time?

03-05-2003, 05:50 AM	#1
drfish the Doc Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Zeeland, MI Posts: 5,357	What's it look like? Can we get a screen shot of this aquarium? I don't watch commercials. Last edited by Jav400; 03-05-2003 at 06:11 AM.

03-05-2003, 06:14 AM	#2
Jav400 Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Tennessee Posts: 9,725	This one is supposed to be out very shortly. You will be amazed. Michael Administrator of Inside:SereneScreen Aquarium Forum, Chatroom, Fan Site & *Gallery* DVD Collection

03-05-2003, 06:14 AM	#3
James Principal Engineer as SDET Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Was in Auckland, New Zealand, Now in Taipei, Taiwan Posts: 1,406	Prolific Publishing will be introducing a new product, a Goldfish Aquarium, in the coming weeks. can we download the demo when it's out? James C Chen Principal Engineer as SDET, Connected Services HTC Corporation 88 Section 3. Zhongxing Road Xindian District, New Taipei City 231, Taiwan www.htc.com

03-05-2003, 06:45 AM	#4
Jav400 Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Tennessee Posts: 9,725	This one should be up and available within about 10-15 days ( time warp not included ). Michael Administrator of Inside:SereneScreen Aquarium Forum, Chatroom, Fan Site & *Gallery* DVD Collection

03-05-2003, 09:45 AM	#5
Liath Still here in spirit Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Ann Arbor, Michigan Posts: 637	Yay! I wasn't that interested in MAT (although I had to download it anyways ). Now I have something to look forward to. Liath Appleton University of Michigan Museum of Zoology My Homepage Why I've been gone

03-05-2003, 10:20 AM	#6
IXNAY Green Frog Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Germany Posts: 840	Can't wait giggle ringdingdiggedingdingding IXNAY dreaming of the serene terrarium - My Private Homepage -

03-05-2003, 11:29 AM	#7
feldon34 Forum Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Rock Hill, SC Posts: 10,939	Prolific to introduce Goldfish Aquarium Prolific Publishing will be introducing a new goldfish-themed screen saver in the coming weeks, developed using the same tools which have been designed to help Jim Sachs in his creation of SereneScreen products. The new Aquarium has been entirely created by Prolific artists/programmers and will initially arrive as a test version with: 3 unique goldfish varying in size and shape Individual fish behavior Realistic swimming/fin physics and new collision avoidance I have seen an early version of the GA and despite Reichart's insistance that it is a primitive version, I was simply stunned. Goldfish don't do much for me and I don't want to build up too much hype, but I think Marine Aquarium users are going to be jealous of the GA for a while (at least until the same physics/behaviors are introduced into MA). I'd have to say that and that there has finally been a successful marraige between "hard-coded" animation (which prevents the fish from 'snapping to' different animations but instead, seamlessly melding from one to another) and physics/math-driven animation which has, in the past, yielded jerky unrealistic or non-natural results. "Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed. Everything else is public relations." - George Orwell "If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal." - Emma Goldman Last edited by feldon34; 03-08-2003 at 01:54 AM.

03-05-2003, 11:46 AM	#8
Derrek Registered Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 186	What great news! First it was MAT then news of a 2.0 version in the works, now this!!

03-05-2003, 05:47 PM	#9
Vish Registered Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: California Posts: 103	WOW ! ! Thats all I can say... --Vish

03-06-2003, 08:20 AM	#10
IXNAY Green Frog Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Germany Posts: 840	Hey sounds cool, do you know anything about system requirements? IXNAY dreaming of the serene terrarium - My Private Homepage -

03-06-2003, 08:22 AM	#11
Sergiales Software Engineer Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Spain Posts: 266	We've received a lot of great news during the last days: - Sachs Marine Aquarium 2.0 - GoldFish Screensaver - PrideFlag Screensaver Cool! Sincerely, Sergio.

03-06-2003, 09:35 AM	#12
Jav400 Administrator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Tennessee Posts: 9,725	IXNAY, System requirements will hopefully be in the same area as what you currently need. The physics that is used in this one will be transposed to the others after this. And believe me, if you didn't know that this thing was generated on your computer, you would swear that you were watching a real goldfish swim. Thats exactly what it looks like. Michael Administrator of Inside:SereneScreen Aquarium Forum, Chatroom, Fan Site & *Gallery* DVD Collection

03-06-2003, 01:22 PM	#13
Vish Registered Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: California Posts: 103	Wow ! ! Is there any specific release date? --Vish Last edited by Vish; 03-06-2003 at 05:26 PM.

03-07-2003, 10:47 AM	#15
IXNAY Green Frog Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Germany Posts: 840	Thanks for the question Jav, sounds great. Seems to be like the freshwatertank (moving plants). Was there cowork with Jim? If not, maybe someone wasted time then... Just one question left: Can we get a picture with more pixels and bigger resolution and more detail????????????????????????????????? IXNAY dreaming of the serene terrarium - My Private Homepage -

03-07-2003, 11:47 AM	#16
FrogMastr Agalychnis callidryas Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Val-d'Or, Quebec, CANADA Posts: 71	plant movement What kind of movement are we talking about? Gentle sway or wil be moving when a fish... moves water at close range of the plant or hit the plant for biting algae? ---- FrogMastr

03-07-2003, 12:22 PM	#17
Reichart CTO Prolific Publishing Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Maui Posts: 423	Originally posted by IXNAY Was there cowork with Jim? If not, maybe someone wasted time then.. Sachs and I have worked together for over a decade and a half, we consult each other on things completely unrelated to Aquariums, or even software. But to answer your question, yes, Sachs is part of everything. Also, the team leads that make up GoldFish (which include Will Ware, and an Artist to be announced soon, and myself, have all worked together over the years, and we even had a company together over a decade ago. The artist is world renowned, and even holds an important patent in the process of art creation, and I believe he just was nominated for an Academy Award Oscar for technical achievement, and won. Yup, our little guppies have “star” quality. P.S. I call Jim “Sachs” because we have here: Jim Sachs "Artist, programmer, illusionist (and I use this world carefully)" Jim Rathbun, “MIS, Installer writer, and my right hand man” Jim “James” Host “Biologist, programmer, grammarian, and master tester.” Jim O’Connor “Mac Programmer, and perhaps one of the most easy going guys I have ever met” I’m glad to call them friends, but what is it with American’s named Jim, and Brits named Simon? *Reichart...* , CTO, Prolific Publishing, Inc. Come visit us Prolific Publishing, Inc.

03-08-2003, 09:33 AM	#18
IXNAY Green Frog Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Germany Posts: 840	Hey the background is green/blue, does it have other colours? IXNAY dreaming of the serene terrarium - My Private Homepage -

03-08-2003, 08:43 PM	#19
drfish the Doc Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Zeeland, MI Posts: 5,357	Thanks for the picture, I can't wait to see it for real! I don't watch commercials.

03-08-2003, 10:51 PM	#20
Vish Registered Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: California Posts: 103	Re: Golden fried fish. Originally posted by Reichart Feldon: ... just a three fish version... When you say 3 fish version, Does that mean that it has three types of GoldFish or it means that you can have three fish max at one time? --Vish