Running on x64?

fred@ · 10-28-2007, 10:03 PM

This happens when I run it on Windows XP x64. Goldfish aquarium works just fine.

Jim Sachs · 10-29-2007, 01:12 AM

Well, that's interesting. Now I suppose everyone is going to want that effect. It looks like a driver problem, but if Goldfish works, then that can't be it. Maybe Edgar will have an idea what's happening.

cjmaddy · 10-29-2007, 05:10 AM

fred@. - Have you tried reinstalling DirectX ? - If you haven't, strange things can happen. This is a before and after of what happened when I updated drivers but did not reinstall DirectX. - Goldfish Aquarium worked just fine, (but slow). - Be sure to re-boot after reinstalling DirectX.

See .... https://www.feldoncentral.com/forums...ectx#post93823

fred@ · 10-29-2007, 07:35 PM

I just did a new install of direct x and I have up to date drivers for my ati 2900. This stinks because its the only screensaver Ive ever bought and its my favorite one

Edgar · 10-30-2007, 02:20 AM

Which goldfish version is working on your system?
Which version of MA are you running?
What resolution are you running the screensaver? Does it work in Windows mode instead of full screen?

fred@ · 10-30-2007, 10:14 PM

Originally posted by Edgar:

Which goldfish version is working on your system?
Which version of MA are you running?
What resolution are you running the screensaver? Does it work in Windows mode instead of full screen?

The one with the blur rocks.
The newest one. 2.6
It doesnt work in windowed mode or any screen resolution.

EdTheWallet · 10-31-2007, 07:01 PM

I had a very similar problem on my new Vista Ultimate x64 machine. The system has 2 - Core 2 Duo 3.2GHz processors and 8GB or RAM and a NVIDIA Quad FX 1300 128MB memory graphics card. My problem turned out to be the graphics card; it did not have enough horse power to keep up with the processors and their power consumption. I had to pony up some more cash for an NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTS 640MB memory graphics card. This card gets it's own power connection and completely solved all video problems I was having. Vista Ultimate x64 was really pushing the FX 1300 to it's limits as evidenced by watching the Task Manager. Yikes!!!

Edgar · 11-01-2007, 08:08 AM

I think ATI are slowly phasing out support for DX7 or just hasn't caught up yet in bug fixing. The newest ATI Catalyst driver for the new cards seems to have issues with our screensavers.

Jim Sachs · 11-01-2007, 10:09 AM

fred@ - Would it be possible to roll back to a previous ATI driver?

fred@ · 11-01-2007, 05:03 PM

Originally posted by Jim Sachs:

fred@ - Would it be possible to roll back to a previous ATI driver?

I'll try that, but I can't keep them. The entire reason that I biult a computer like I did was to play games, and some of the newer one can't run with older drivers. EG. Crysis

I'll test this though and get back to you.

Jim Sachs · 11-01-2007, 05:35 PM

It's very nice of you to go to that trouble for us.

In case anyone is wondering, Marine Aquarium used DX6. MA3 will use DX8/9.

fred@ · 11-01-2007, 06:14 PM

Originally posted by Jim Sachs:

It's very nice of you to go to that trouble for us.

In case anyone is wondering, Marine Aquarium used DX6. MA3 will use DX8/9.

Ok, I used the 7.9 ATI drivers and it works. I guess 7.10 just doesnt like the screensaver. Anyways, if they did drop support for whatever makes the program work we'll just need a new version to go along with the newer drivers

Edgar · 11-01-2007, 07:17 PM

It is also possible that ATI just hasn't completely fixed all the bugs on the new drivers. So we may not need to do anything yet. I do noticed that ATI seems to be making sure it is compatible with the popular games. All the release notes are about video games so far.

Jim Sachs · 11-01-2007, 07:31 PM

Yes, there's a good chance that ATI will fix their drivers to accomodate a program that's probably on more computers than anything else except Windows.

By the way, MA3 is the newer version to go along with newer drivers

Highlander · 11-04-2007, 05:31 AM

hmm, got a weird thing :

I install MA2.6 and i cant find it in with the screensavers.

I can only reach it from the start menu.

Probably because im running Vista 64bit home premium.
Anyone has an idea?

Thanks

Jim Sachs · 11-04-2007, 11:25 AM

Yes, this one is a known problem. The installer puts the Aquarium in the traditional folder for screensavers (Windows/System32), but the 64-bit version of Vista uses a different folder for 32-bit programs, and it's just the opposite of the one you'd expect. I believe if you copy the Aquarium program to the sysWOW64 folder, then Vista can find it. Edgar or Jim R. probably remember this better that I do, and may be able to give you a definitive answer.

Highlander · 11-04-2007, 11:34 AM

Originally posted by Jim Sachs:

Yes, this one is a known problem. The installer puts the Aquarium in the traditional folder for screensavers (Windows/System32), but the 64-bit version of Vista uses a different folder for 32-bit programs, and it's just the opposite of the one you'd expect. I believe if you copy the Aquarium program to the sysWOW64 folder, then Vista can find it. Edgar or Jim R. probably remember this better that I do, and may be able to give you a definitive answer.

ok thanks Jim i try that

fred@ · 11-21-2007, 08:07 PM

Ok, the new drivers are out and the screensaver doesn't work. Eventually I'm going to have to bite the bullet and upgrade and say good bye to my favorite screensaver

Atleast I got goldfish aquarium....

10-28-2007, 10:03 PM	#1
fred@ Registered Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 32	Running on x64? This happens when I run it on Windows XP x64. Goldfish aquarium works just fine.

10-29-2007, 01:12 AM	#2
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,799	Well, that's interesting. Now I suppose everyone is going to want that effect. It looks like a driver problem, but if Goldfish works, then that can't be it. Maybe Edgar will have an idea what's happening. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

10-30-2007, 02:20 AM	#5
Edgar Prolific/SereneScreen Developer Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Norwalk, CA Posts: 513	Which goldfish version is working on your system? Which version of MA are you running? What resolution are you running the screensaver? Does it work in Windows mode instead of full screen? *Edgar Tolentino* Prolific Developer www.prolific.com www.LifeGlobe.com

11-01-2007, 08:08 AM	#8
Edgar Prolific/SereneScreen Developer Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Norwalk, CA Posts: 513	I think ATI are slowly phasing out support for DX7 or just hasn't caught up yet in bug fixing. The newest ATI Catalyst driver for the new cards seems to have issues with our screensavers. *Edgar Tolentino* Prolific Developer www.prolific.com www.LifeGlobe.com

11-01-2007, 10:09 AM	#9
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,799	fred@ - Would it be possible to roll back to a previous ATI driver? Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

10-29-2007, 05:10 AM	#3
cjmaddy Registered Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Lancashire, UK Posts: 7,854	fred@. - Have you tried reinstalling DirectX ? - If you haven't, strange things can happen. This is a before and after of what happened when I updated drivers but did not reinstall DirectX. - Goldfish Aquarium worked just fine, (but slow). - Be sure to re-boot after reinstalling DirectX. See .... https://www.feldoncentral.com/forums...ectx#post93823

10-29-2007, 07:35 PM	#4
fred@ Registered Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 32	I just did a new install of direct x and I have up to date drivers for my ati 2900. This stinks because its the only screensaver Ive ever bought and its my favorite one

10-30-2007, 10:14 PM	#6
fred@ Registered Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 32	Originally posted by Edgar: Which goldfish version is working on your system? Which version of MA are you running? What resolution are you running the screensaver? Does it work in Windows mode instead of full screen? The one with the blur rocks. The newest one. 2.6 It doesnt work in windowed mode or any screen resolution.

10-31-2007, 07:01 PM	#7
EdTheWallet Registered Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1	I had a very similar problem on my new Vista Ultimate x64 machine. The system has 2 - Core 2 Duo 3.2GHz processors and 8GB or RAM and a NVIDIA Quad FX 1300 128MB memory graphics card. My problem turned out to be the graphics card; it did not have enough horse power to keep up with the processors and their power consumption. I had to pony up some more cash for an NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTS 640MB memory graphics card. This card gets it's own power connection and completely solved all video problems I was having. Vista Ultimate x64 was really pushing the FX 1300 to it's limits as evidenced by watching the Task Manager. Yikes!!!

11-01-2007, 05:03 PM	#10
fred@ Registered Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 32	Originally posted by Jim Sachs: fred@ - Would it be possible to roll back to a previous ATI driver? I'll try that, but I can't keep them. The entire reason that I biult a computer like I did was to play games, and some of the newer one can't run with older drivers. EG. Crysis I'll test this though and get back to you.

11-01-2007, 05:35 PM	#11
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,799	It's very nice of you to go to that trouble for us. In case anyone is wondering, Marine Aquarium used DX6. MA3 will use DX8/9. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

11-01-2007, 06:14 PM	#12
fred@ Registered Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 32	Originally posted by Jim Sachs: It's very nice of you to go to that trouble for us. In case anyone is wondering, Marine Aquarium used DX6. MA3 will use DX8/9. Ok, I used the 7.9 ATI drivers and it works. I guess 7.10 just doesnt like the screensaver. Anyways, if they did drop support for whatever makes the program work we'll just need a new version to go along with the newer drivers

11-01-2007, 07:17 PM	#13
Edgar Prolific/SereneScreen Developer Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Norwalk, CA Posts: 513	It is also possible that ATI just hasn't completely fixed all the bugs on the new drivers. So we may not need to do anything yet. I do noticed that ATI seems to be making sure it is compatible with the popular games. All the release notes are about video games so far. *Edgar Tolentino* Prolific Developer www.prolific.com www.LifeGlobe.com

11-01-2007, 07:31 PM	#14
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,799	Yes, there's a good chance that ATI will fix their drivers to accomodate a program that's probably on more computers than anything else except Windows. By the way, MA3 is the newer version to go along with newer drivers Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

11-04-2007, 05:31 AM	#15
Highlander Registered Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Antwerp - Belgium Posts: 87	hmm, got a weird thing : I install MA2.6 and i cant find it in with the screensavers. I can only reach it from the start menu. Probably because im running Vista 64bit home premium. Anyone has an idea? Thanks Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups !

11-04-2007, 11:25 AM	#16
Jim Sachs Developer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 9,799	Yes, this one is a known problem. The installer puts the Aquarium in the traditional folder for screensavers (Windows/System32), but the 64-bit version of Vista uses a different folder for 32-bit programs, and it's just the opposite of the one you'd expect. I believe if you copy the Aquarium program to the sysWOW64 folder, then Vista can find it. Edgar or Jim R. probably remember this better that I do, and may be able to give you a definitive answer. Jim Sachs Creator of SereneScreen Aquarium

11-04-2007, 11:34 AM	#17
Highlander Registered Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Antwerp - Belgium Posts: 87	Originally posted by Jim Sachs: Yes, this one is a known problem. The installer puts the Aquarium in the traditional folder for screensavers (Windows/System32), but the 64-bit version of Vista uses a different folder for 32-bit programs, and it's just the opposite of the one you'd expect. I believe if you copy the Aquarium program to the sysWOW64 folder, then Vista can find it. Edgar or Jim R. probably remember this better that I do, and may be able to give you a definitive answer. ok thanks Jim i try that Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups !

11-21-2007, 08:07 PM	#18
fred@ Registered Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 32	Ok, the new drivers are out and the screensaver doesn't work. Eventually I'm going to have to bite the bullet and upgrade and say good bye to my favorite screensaver Atleast I got goldfish aquarium....